E. Jean Carroll may sue Trump again after CNN comments
Writer E. Jean Carroll says she may sue Donald Trump a third time after the former president made “disgusting, vile, foul” comments about her during his explosive CNN town hall this week.
“It’s just stupid, it’s just disgusting, vile, foul, it wounds people,” Carroll, 79, told the New York Times on Thursday of Trump’s allegations that her claim that he sexually assaulted her was “fake” and a “made-up story.”
Trump’s divisive CNN comments on Wednesday came one day after a Manhattan jury awarded Carroll $5 million in damages and found the former president, 76, liable for sexually abusing her in the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman in 1996 and for defaming her on Truth Social.
The “Ask E. Jean” columnist is weighing whether to file a new defamation suit against Trump after he dismissed the civil trial as “a rigged deal” and called Carroll a “whack job” during the network appearance, her attorney Roberta Kaplan told the Times.
“Everything’s on the table, obviously, and we have to give serious consideration to it,” Kaplan said.
In addition to the case that ended Tuesday, Carroll has another defamation suit against Trump that is still pending. The real estate mogul has argued that he cannot be sued for the remarks because he made them in his official capacity as president, the Times explained.
His lawyer, Joe Tacopina, also announced plans to appeal this week’s verdict.
Carroll — who said she was “thrilled” by the jury’s decision — told the outlet that she did not watch the town hall live, but was furious when she saw the transcript the following morning.
“I am upset on the behalf of young men in America,” she said, noting that her longtime stylist’s teenage son was talking about Trump’s remarks.
“They cannot listen to this balderdash and this old-timey view of women, which is a caveman view.”
Carroll also blamed herself for the jury’s decision to find Trump liable for sexual abuse but not rape, even though the accusations stemmed from the same incident.
“I didn’t make myself clear when I was testifying,” she explained.
While on the stand, Carroll recounted the 1996 attack in excruciating detail, including how Trump allegedly led her through the department store’s lingerie department and into a dressing room before penetrating her with his fingers and genitals.
“I couldn’t see anything that was happening,” she told the jury.
“But I could certainly feel it. I could certainly feel that pain in the finger jamming up.”
In her Times interview on Thursday, Carroll reiterated that she had been married twice, and said, “I know what a penis feels like, and he did insert his penis.”
Carroll was also cross-examined for nearly two grueling days by Tacopina.
Her own lawyers, she told the Times, warned her that he would “pull out all stops.”
In addition to her ritual of praying with her stylist every morning before court, Carroll said she enlisted sartorial confidence to face down the interrogations.
“By the time I was sitting down, I was braced up. If you notice, I always wore a tight-fitting jacket just to keep myself together, you know, as sort of a little bit of armor against Joe Tacopina,” she recalled of the experience.
The pair particularly locked horns when Tacopina pressed Carroll on why she did not scream for help during the assault.
In court, Carroll eventually fired back that “I’m telling you, he raped me, whether I screamed or not.”
“This is not the 16th century,” she told the Times of the exchange.
“I was almost embarrassed for him. Just embarrassed. How dare he? To malign a woman for not screaming is preposterous.”
After Tuesday’s verdict, Carroll and Kaplan celebrated with wine.
“There was such joy,” she said.
“We almost floated to the top of the ceiling.”
Even with the thought of another lawsuit looming, the “What Do We Need Men For?: A Modest Proposal” author said she is looking forward to her post-trial life — and is even open to exploring romance again.
“I wasn’t having romance, and I was aware something was desperately wrong,” she said of the self-blame that plagued her in the years following Trump’s attack.
“Yes, I’m going to do [have romance again], I’m going to do it, so watch out.”